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SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
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Heidi Manway
2007-01-17 23:05:05 UTC
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SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"

I was on this 10 computer Tips website

http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...

http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html

Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft

I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??

Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?

Heidi
Bill
2007-01-17 23:15:39 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
My experience with their product is that it has been useful
and accurate. Norton Anti-virus doesn't catch all spyware/
scumware, nor does it flag cookies are potential privacy
problems - Ad-Aware does. I don't consider Ad-Aware to be
a scam.

Since you appear to be using Windows XP, I recommend you
install Windows Defender (or whatever Microsoft is calling
it these days) and run Ad-Aware every few days to clean
out tracking cookies and other debris. Unfortunately there
is no one-stop solution to privacy/spyware defense.
David H. Lipman
2007-01-17 23:22:51 UTC
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From: "Heidi Manway" <***@yahoo.com>

| SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
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| I was on this 10 computer Tips website
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| http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
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| http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
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| Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
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| I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
| I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
| Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
|
| Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
|
| Heidi

This is NO scan. Lavasoft is a reputable anti malware application geared towards non-viral
malware. Worry aboy the Rogues listed on Spyware Warrior
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Lavasoft Ad-aware is NOT a Rogue and is quite respectable and has a low level rate of Flase
Positive decalaractions (albeit, they do exist from time to time).

If Lavasoft Ad-aware indicated you had malware... You can bet you have malware !

Your problem is you don't practice Safe Hex and you relied on anti malware to totally
protect you. You are the best protector against malware. If you practiced Safe Hex then
Nortin Anti Spyware would have been sufficient.

Start with Ad-aware SE. If doesnot completely clean your PC, please post in an anti malware
News Groups such as...

news:alt.comp.anti-virus
news:alt.privacy.spyware

And we will assist you with their removal.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
l***@rtheyaroundsomewhere.org
2007-01-19 01:35:02 UTC
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Post by David H. Lipman
If you practiced Safe Hex then
Nortin Anti Spyware would have been sufficient.
There's no straight man out ther who doesn't eventually gravitate to the
porn sites. The question is which are clean and which aren't! LOL!
David H. Lipman
2007-01-19 02:06:52 UTC
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From: <***@rtheyaroundsomewhere.org>

| "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in news:fdyrh.2219
| $***@trnddc06:
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Post by David H. Lipman
If you practiced Safe Hex then
Nortin Anti Spyware would have been sufficient.
| There's no straight man out ther who doesn't eventually gravitate to the
| porn sites. The question is which are clean and which aren't! LOL!

LOL - Yes.

However practicing Safe Hex and visting porn sites are NOT in conflict :-)
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
Mark Warner
2007-01-17 23:26:47 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
Post by Heidi Manway
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
I'd trust Ad-Aware.

I think you're just miffed because you don't want to admit you made the
bad decision to use and *pay* *for* the Symantec crapware.
--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying
Craig
2007-01-17 23:47:01 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
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Post by Heidi Manway
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Heidi
Fwiw Heidi;

It's pretty easy to determine if Lavasoft's Ad-Aware is a "scam:"
~ What does the /company/ say it is?(1)
~ What do the press say it is?(2)
~ What do newsgroups have to say about it?(3)
~ What does microsoft say about it?(4)

hth,
-Craig

1)<http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad-aware_se_personal.php>
2)<http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=lavasoft>
3)<groups.google.com/groups?q=%22ad-aware%22+group%3Aalt.comp.freeware>
4)<microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/expert/honeycutt_spyware.mspx>
FredW
2007-01-18 00:09:34 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
10 Easy steps to speed up your ..........
In chapter 8. both Spybot Search & Destroy an AdAware SE
are recommended.
Did you use BOTH of them and what were the results?

As you seem to be "heavily infested" with spyware,
I advise you urgently to also download, install, update
and scan with SuperAntiSpyware:
http://www.superantispyware.com/download.html

Spybot, AdAware and SuperAntiSpyware are known to be reliable
products and they are certainly not a scam.
(I use all three to do a weekly scan of my PC.)

The products of Norton (Symantec) have a growingly bad reputation,
for being "bloatware" and missing malware found by a lot
of other products.

In your case I would use Spybot AND AdAware AND SuperAntiSpyware
(yes, all three of them) and accept that what they find is real
spyware (malware) invaded on your PC.

Maybe you should quit putting your trust in a product of
Norton (Symantec), specifically the combined products.
There are better AV programs on the market,
even free AV-programs.
--
Fred Wening (NL)
ranrad
2007-01-18 08:38:03 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Yes, their product can be aquired for FREE, so it must be a sales marketing
gimmick

No mate, get rid of Norton, it's bad news. As you have been advised Spybot
& AdAware are miles ahead of Norton and are free. The other one recommended
I haven't heard of till now, so I can't comment.
But anybody who recommends the other two can't be all bad, so I'd listen to
them..
Mark Ciochetto
2007-01-18 00:35:41 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Heidi
I bought the prefessional version and ordered the cd too. They sent me
an unformatted cd and would not send another or credit me for the price
of it.
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God I want patience, and I WANT IT NOW!

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Lew/+Silat
2007-01-18 01:10:48 UTC
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Post by Mark Ciochetto
I bought the prefessional version and ordered the cd too. They sent me
an unformatted cd and would not send another or credit me for the price
of it.
Yes they are difficult to deal with if you have any type of problem with the business end. I also had a bad
experience. I bought the pro version. Couldnt get my number to allow me to download it. Spent 6 months
arguing with the home office in Sweden over the issue. Sent them all the email receipts on at least 5
seperate occasions and still they wouldnt make good. Finally on my dime called them 3 times from USA and got
them to give me what I paid for. Costly product for me:)

The product is good and works as advertised. Wouldnt be without it as part of a layered defense.

Lew/+Silat
Susan Bugher
2007-01-18 02:15:26 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
<SNIP>
Post by Heidi Manway
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Are you working for the competition? If not, why are you posting false
accusations?

Miss Manners says, "Spreading FUD/ rumor-mongering/ making false
accusations is not a nice way to behave. Make sure your allegations are
correct BEFORE you start slinging mud."

Just FYI. . .

Every year alt.comp.freeware newsgroup participants choose programs for
the Pricelessware List: "The best of the best in Freeware".

Ad-Aware has been on the list every year since it began. It received the
SECOND HIGHEST number of votes during the 2007 Pricelessware selection
process.

IOW - many people in this newsgroup love Ad-aware and many of the people
who love it have been using Ad-aware for a long, long, long, long, long,
long, long, long time.

Susan
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Posted to alt.comp.freeware
Search alt.comp.freeware (or read it online):
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Pricelessware & ACF: http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org (not maintained)
DevilsPGD
2007-01-18 16:25:46 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Sounds to me like Norton is the gimmick here. Lavasoft's software is
free, and does a better job. Your outrage would be better placed at
Symantec's doorstep, asking why they're charging you money and causing
performance problems on your desktop without even catching all of the
stuff the freebie alternatives do.
--
If a job is worth doing, then get someone in to do it properly.
Fuzzy Logic
2007-01-18 19:23:59 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
I was on this 10 computer Tips website
http://www.ourcomputertips.com/computer/10_easy_steps_to_speed_up_you...
http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
Is this a sales marketing gimmick to sell their software?
Heidi
IMO Ad-Aware over emphasizes cookies as harmfull.
DevilsPGD
2007-01-18 20:52:27 UTC
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Post by Fuzzy Logic
IMO Ad-Aware over emphasizes cookies as harmfull.
Agreed. At least one version in the past made it very difficult to
convince Ad-Aware that I don't want to hear about cookies too, although
I believe that was rectified.
--
He who laughs last thinks slowest!
John Fitzsimons
2007-01-18 21:54:57 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
< snip >

Thanks for the warning. Obviously Norton is a pretty useless program.
Hope you didn't pay for it.
REM
2007-01-19 11:30:54 UTC
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Post by John Fitzsimons
Post by Heidi Manway
Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.06 Software by Lavasoft
I downloaded the AntiSpyware Software I scanned my system it came back
I was heavily infested with all sorts of things MY Uptodate Norton
Antispyware Antivirus says I am totally clear??
< snip >
Thanks for the warning. Obviously Norton is a pretty useless program.
Hope you didn't pay for it.
My thoughts exactly, but I bit my tongue. <G>
Richard Steven Hack
2007-01-20 04:13:08 UTC
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Post by Heidi Manway
SCAM Software Company "Lavasoft"
You'll note that Ad-Aware lists items under "Critical Objects" and that
most of the rest of the stuff gets labeled under a less critical heading.

Cookies aren't dangerous - unless you care about your privacy. If all you
care about is avoiding trojans, spyware, and the like, then ignore the
cookie reports. But quite frankly, you might as well get rid of all of it
- none of it is doing you any good.

Today, the real malware is trojans. Get AVG Antispyware from Grisoft
(formerly Ewido), which is free for home users. Also get A-Squared Free
which is another good trojan detector.

Security researchers now say that all the virus and spyware writers are
TESTING their malware against ALL the detectors before releasing them into
the wild. Which means almost nothing will detected until someone can
provide a sample to the anti-malware vendors. And the malware writers are
also monitoring the new antimalware signature databases and immediately
altering their malware to evade again.

A recent test showed that most of the malware detectors - including ALL
the big boys like Norton and McAfee - are detecting and clearing FIFTY
PERCENT OR LESS of malware on a given machine.

Which means you need at least FOUR malware detectors - an antivirus, at
least two spyware detectors, and a trojan detector. In the near future,
you will also need a rootkit detector, as rootkits are on the rise.

You also need at least one and preferably two spyware blockers such as
Spybot Search and Destroy, SpywareBlaster, SpyGuard, or Windows Defender
(the latter only for Windows XP). All of these are free for home users.

You also need to stop using Internet Explorer and use Firefox or Opera -
which do not execute ActiveX Controls without your knowledge. This is
where ninety percent of spyware comes from - using IE.

Or you can just switch to a MacIntosh or a Linux machine and forget all
the above for the next five years or so, at least, since it's unlikely
that either Mac or Linux will be adequately targeted by malware writers
any time soon - and even if they do, it will be a lot harder to corrupt
Macs and Linux machines than it is that crap sold by Microsoft.

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