Discussion:
Clone SD card, including serial number?
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Larry Sabo
2007-06-19 23:09:47 UTC
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I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, but thought I'd ask if anyone has
investigated this and found a solution. I believe one can change the
Volume ID of hard drives and imagine something similar being possible
for SD cards.

I appreciate that unscrupulous people might clone such cards and sell
copies, and I certainly don't want to facilitate that behaviour
through this thread. Given that the program and data on the card in
question cost me $183 CAD, I do feel rather vulnerable, even if I can
backup the contents of the card excluding the serial number. I have
had SD cards become totally unreadable and unformatable and would like
to be prepared should it happen with this one.

Only freeware, please.

Thanks,
Larry
©®
2007-06-19 23:17:39 UTC
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Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup.
Let me guess: is it TomTom by any chance?
Even if you get a TT unit with a hard drive, there is no backup on CD/DVD or
anything. You have to make a complete backup *first* before using it incase
you mess anything up. I think it is terrible that you can pay a lot of money
and if you are not aware and screw something up, you would think the backup
(map) is on the CD - wrong!
Hope you find a solution and I know your predicament...you *do* need that
backup because cards fail.
(Sorry I can't offer an answer!)
Larry Sabo
2007-06-20 00:29:02 UTC
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Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup.
Let me guess: is it TomTom by any chance?
Even if you get a TT unit with a hard drive, there is no backup on CD/DVD or
anything. You have to make a complete backup *first* before using it incase
you mess anything up. I think it is terrible that you can pay a lot of money
and if you are not aware and screw something up, you would think the backup
(map) is on the CD - wrong!
Hope you find a solution and I know your predicament...you *do* need that
backup because cards fail.
(Sorry I can't offer an answer!)
No, it's OCN6.

Thanks for the reply.
Lord Possum
2007-06-20 01:12:17 UTC
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Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, ..............[snip]
================

Larry, you did specify the serial number shown for the SD card in
consideration, but wonder if you were speaking of the VOLUME No.
This will appear as a binary pair looking like this:

0a33:fa15 (fictitious, of course) This is called the volume no.
or Volume Serial Number. (VSN) Understand we are not talking about
the drive Label name. That is different.

There are several proggies that will enable a user to recode any
particular drive, SD card, thumbdrive, etc. using any combination
of valid binary digits like the above. I always delighted in
re-volume-setting my various SD cards with C0DE:FEED (That 0 is zero)

Look for a DOS program called SETVOLNO.EXE, 1992 Micrological Designs
Lord Possum
2007-06-20 01:24:34 UTC
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Post by Lord Possum
Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, ..............[snip]
================
Larry, you did specify the serial number shown for the SD card in
consideration, but wonder if you were speaking of the VOLUME No.
0a33:fa15 (fictitious, of course) This is called the volume no.
or Volume Serial Number. (VSN) Understand we are not talking about
the drive Label name. That is different.
There are several proggies that will enable a user to recode any
particular drive, SD card, thumbdrive, etc. using any combination
of valid binary digits like the above. I always delighted in
re-volume-setting my various SD cards with C0DE:FEED (That 0 is zero)
Look for a DOS program called SETVOLNO.EXE, 1992 Micrological Designs
LATE COMMENT: I misspoke the above: the correct examples should read
0a33-fa15 and C0DE-FEED (Use hyphens - instead of colons :)
Just did it to make sure.
Larry Sabo
2007-06-20 11:49:08 UTC
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Post by Lord Possum
Post by Lord Possum
Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, ..............[snip]
================
Larry, you did specify the serial number shown for the SD card in
consideration, but wonder if you were speaking of the VOLUME No.
0a33:fa15 (fictitious, of course) This is called the volume no.
or Volume Serial Number. (VSN) Understand we are not talking about
the drive Label name. That is different.
There are several proggies that will enable a user to recode any
particular drive, SD card, thumbdrive, etc. using any combination
of valid binary digits like the above. I always delighted in
re-volume-setting my various SD cards with C0DE:FEED (That 0 is zero)
Look for a DOS program called SETVOLNO.EXE, 1992 Micrological Designs
LATE COMMENT: I misspoke the above: the correct examples should read
0a33-fa15 and C0DE-FEED (Use hyphens - instead of colons :)
Just did it to make sure.
Thanks, Lord Possum. I don't have the card yet, hence no volume number
supplied.

I haven't studied the file structure of SD cards yet, so am totally
ignorant of their structure and nomenclature. I'll try the program you
recommend with a spare SD card and see how it goes. Should receive my
OCN6 card in a week and will make a backup using a media reader and
the desktop before inserting it into the PDA. Hopefully, the autostart
inf won't screw things up doing that. I know the program installs
itself upon the card being inserted into the PDA. Probably generates
an encrypted key at that point, too.

Thanks again for your helpfulness.

Cheers,
Larry
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2017-06-05 17:15:57 UTC
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Post by Larry Sabo
Post by Lord Possum
Post by Lord Possum
Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, ..............[snip]
================
Larry, you did specify the serial number shown for the SD card in
consideration, but wonder if you were speaking of the VOLUME No.
0a33:fa15 (fictitious, of course) This is called the volume no.
or Volume Serial Number. (VSN) Understand we are not talking about
the drive Label name. That is different.
There are several proggies that will enable a user to recode any
particular drive, SD card, thumbdrive, etc. using any combination
of valid binary digits like the above. I always delighted in
re-volume-setting my various SD cards with C0DE:FEED (That 0 is zero)
Look for a DOS program called SETVOLNO.EXE, 1992 Micrological Designs
LATE COMMENT: I misspoke the above: the correct examples should read
0a33-fa15 and C0DE-FEED (Use hyphens - instead of colons :)
Just did it to make sure.
Thanks, Lord Possum. I don't have the card yet, hence no volume number
supplied.
I haven't studied the file structure of SD cards yet, so am totally
ignorant of their structure and nomenclature. I'll try the program you
recommend with a spare SD card and see how it goes. Should receive my
OCN6 card in a week and will make a backup using a media reader and
the desktop before inserting it into the PDA. Hopefully, the autostart
inf won't screw things up doing that. I know the program installs
itself upon the card being inserted into the PDA. Probably generates
an encrypted key at that point, too.
Thanks again for your helpfulness.
Cheers,
Larry
Dear sirs,

Has anyone managed to completely duplicate an GPS card so it is workable?
Shadow
2017-06-06 16:33:12 UTC
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Post by b***@gmail.com
Post by Larry Sabo
Post by Lord Possum
Post by Lord Possum
Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, ..............[snip]
================
Larry, you did specify the serial number shown for the SD card in
consideration, but wonder if you were speaking of the VOLUME No.
0a33:fa15 (fictitious, of course) This is called the volume no.
or Volume Serial Number. (VSN) Understand we are not talking about
the drive Label name. That is different.
There are several proggies that will enable a user to recode any
particular drive, SD card, thumbdrive, etc. using any combination
of valid binary digits like the above. I always delighted in
re-volume-setting my various SD cards with C0DE:FEED (That 0 is zero)
Look for a DOS program called SETVOLNO.EXE, 1992 Micrological Designs
LATE COMMENT: I misspoke the above: the correct examples should read
0a33-fa15 and C0DE-FEED (Use hyphens - instead of colons :)
Just did it to make sure.
Thanks, Lord Possum. I don't have the card yet, hence no volume number
supplied.
I haven't studied the file structure of SD cards yet, so am totally
ignorant of their structure and nomenclature. I'll try the program you
recommend with a spare SD card and see how it goes. Should receive my
OCN6 card in a week and will make a backup using a media reader and
the desktop before inserting it into the PDA. Hopefully, the autostart
inf won't screw things up doing that. I know the program installs
itself upon the card being inserted into the PDA. Probably generates
an encrypted key at that point, too.
Thanks again for your helpfulness.
Cheers,
Larry
Dear sirs,
Has anyone managed to completely duplicate an GPS card so it is workable?
"Lord Possum" did, but they killed him 8 years ago..... It
took them 2 years to ID him.
They're faster now, and Glugle-powered.
HTH
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2017-11-18 15:47:51 UTC
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Post by Larry Sabo
I'll be receiving a GPS programs and maps on an SD card soon and would
like to clone the card for backup. The software is locked to the
serial number of the SD card, so just backing up the data isn't
enough. I suspect it is impossible to clone the card completely,
including serial number, but thought I'd ask if anyone has
investigated this and found a solution. I believe one can change the
Volume ID of hard drives and imagine something similar being possible
for SD cards.
I appreciate that unscrupulous people might clone such cards and sell
copies, and I certainly don't want to facilitate that behaviour
through this thread. Given that the program and data on the card in
question cost me $183 CAD, I do feel rather vulnerable, even if I can
backup the contents of the card excluding the serial number. I have
had SD cards become totally unreadable and unformatable and would like
to be prepared should it happen with this one.
Only freeware, please.
Thanks,
Larry
To fully clone a card apart from only copying the data you also need to clone card serial number CID. Since recently there is a method of spoofing CID on the fly. There is this uSD to SD adapter that replaces the CID on the fly. It is available at spoofcid.co
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