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dos program PFS professional file
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Rick
2004-04-17 21:34:55 UTC
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Hi

I am looking for a old DOS app called PFS Pro File. It was made by Software
Publishing Corporation

Can any one point me in the right direction to get a copy?

TIA
Rick
Vrodok the Troll
2004-04-17 22:29:05 UTC
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:34:55 GMT, in alt.comp.freeware, "Rick"
Post by Rick
Hi
I am looking for a old DOS app called PFS Pro File. It was made by Software
Publishing Corporation
Can any one point me in the right direction to get a copy?
Rick
Tried [asking] in 'alt.binaries.war**.ibm-pc.old'?

(that which the 2 above "**" characters replace are/is not highly thought-of
here, in this group)
Ceg
2004-04-17 22:35:36 UTC
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Post by Vrodok the Troll
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:34:55 GMT, in alt.comp.freeware, "Rick"
Post by Rick
Hi
I am looking for a old DOS app called PFS Pro File. It was made by Software
Publishing Corporation
Can any one point me in the right direction to get a copy?
Rick
Tried [asking] in 'alt.binaries.war**.ibm-pc.old'?
(that which the 2 above "**" characters replace are/is not highly thought-of
here, in this group)
Maybe not, but they can tell you 40levendozen programs to rip copyrighted
photos from screensavers. Oh, wait...that's not the same is it?
Rick
2004-04-20 00:25:30 UTC
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Thanks I will give it a try.
Post by Vrodok the Troll
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 21:34:55 GMT, in alt.comp.freeware, "Rick"
Post by Rick
Hi
I am looking for a old DOS app called PFS Pro File. It was made by Software
Publishing Corporation
Can any one point me in the right direction to get a copy?
Rick
Tried [asking] in 'alt.binaries.war**.ibm-pc.old'?
(that which the 2 above "**" characters replace are/is not highly thought-of
here, in this group)
A.A. Fussy
2004-04-20 09:13:38 UTC
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Post by Rick
Hi
I am looking for a old DOS app called PFS Pro File. It was made by Software
Publishing Corporation
Can any one point me in the right direction to get a copy?
TIA
Rick
eBay
oldtimer2
2007-06-10 17:35:16 UTC
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If E-Bay did not work for you, I have it.
David H. Lipman
2007-06-10 17:56:05 UTC
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From: "oldtimer2" <***@chartertn.net>

| If E-Bay did not work for you, I have it.

I still use it :-)
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oldtimer2
2007-06-10 20:20:00 UTC
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I would like to use it, but I'm running Windows XP Pro. XP doesn't run 16
bit DOS programs.

I assume from your response, "i still use it," that you have already found
a copy. If so, fine. If not, mine could be E-Mailed if I had a
temporarily E-Mail address that you would set up.

Oh yes, if you know how to finesse XP into running PFS Pro File, I would
be happy to learn your technique.
David H. Lipman
2007-06-10 22:14:22 UTC
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From: "oldtimer2" <***@chartertn.net>

| I would like to use it, but I'm running Windows XP Pro. XP doesn't run 16
| bit DOS programs.
|
| I assume from your response, "i still use it," that you have already found
| a copy. If so, fine. If not, mine could be E-Mailed if I had a
| temporarily E-Mail address that you would set up.
|
| Oh yes, if you know how to finesse XP into running PFS Pro File, I would
| be happy to learn your technique.

It works under WinXP SP2 just fine.
It isn't a case of "finding" a copy. I have been using for quite a number of years.
There is NO technique. Just create a PIF file to PF.EXE.
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oldtimer2
2007-06-11 12:09:06 UTC
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My disk has 5 files, "PF, PF help, PF.PRI, PF.OVL. & PF.SETUP."

How do I go about creating a "PF file to PF.EXE?

Thank you.
rich
2007-06-11 17:41:12 UTC
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Post by oldtimer2
My disk has 5 files, "PF, PF help, PF.PRI, PF.OVL. & PF.SETUP."
How do I go about creating a "PF file to PF.EXE?
Thank you.
You should really try one of the ibm-pc.old newsgroups rather than this
one, however;

I have a boxed copy of Professional File v2.021 from about 1991.
There were several versions floating about see:
http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/spc.htm
Extracted from archive (cupboard) and it works ok in winXP.

the files on the distribution disk are:
ASSET
EMPLOYEE.DBF
EMPLOYEE.PF2
PF .EXE
PF .HLP
PF .PRI
PF .PS
PFRT .EXE
PFRT .OVL
SALES

Apart from the sample database I dont know what your PF.SETUP can be and
the PF.OVL file probably indicates an earlier version. Is the PF.??? file
actually PF.COM

To get it running, copy the files to a directory (folder) right-click on
the desktop and make a shortcut to PF.EXE (or PF.COM)
The reference to the .pif file - only needed if you are using windows v3

might work, best of luck
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rich
oldtimer2
2007-06-11 19:13:46 UTC
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Thank you! I will give it a try. Also will check your site "old tools."

Will now stop bothering you.

Again, thanks for your time and efforts.

Oldtimer2
resdfw
2007-07-23 22:21:46 UTC
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I'd like to know if someone got this old but very nice program Professional
file to work with Windows XP...I still have it and use it, but I have to
drop to DOS window and then call the program from there. If there is way
to use it directly from windows, It would be a HUGE favor to explain it to
me PLEASE....Thanks....
rich
2007-07-24 08:20:45 UTC
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Post by resdfw
I'd like to know if someone got this old but very nice program Professional
file to work with Windows XP...I still have it and use it, but I have to
drop to DOS window and then call the program from there. If there is way
to use it directly from windows, It would be a HUGE favor to explain it to
me PLEASE....Thanks....
Sort of off topic for this ng but.. never one to decline a challenge.

1. make a batch (.bat) file for PF.exe - ie use notepad make one line,

pf.exe

- save as pf.bat in the same directory (folder) as pro file.

2. make a shortcut to pf.bat (right click on desktop, make shortcut etc......)

3. right click on the shortcut and click on properties.

4. open the font tab and change the font to TT lucida console and the size
to (say) 24.

5. apply the changes

6. run pro file from the shortcut - still in a window but now a more
comfortable viewing size.
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rich
resdfw
2007-07-24 18:10:57 UTC
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Rich,

You are the man!!!! Thanks a million. It works great, I was able to
re-size the window/text and relocate the window to a desired location. I
never knew that this was possible....Awesome. I have loved this program
from day one and wish SPC would hae put out some more versions of this
simple, yet powerful program. I think I have an older version. Which
version do you have????
rich
2007-07-24 18:21:10 UTC
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Post by resdfw
Rich,
You are the man!!!! Thanks a million. It works great, I was able to
re-size the window/text and relocate the window to a desired location. I
never knew that this was possible....Awesome. I have loved this program
from day one and wish SPC would hae put out some more versions of this
simple, yet powerful program. I think I have an older version. Which
version do you have????
ver 2.021 still in its box and with the manual - got it cheap in 1991-ish
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rich
resdfw
2007-07-24 19:53:04 UTC
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I can't find find my original box/disks right now. I don't know what
version I am using. I tried to right click on PF.EXE and check in
properties, but it does not show. Do U know a way to check the version??
Thanks..
resdfw
2007-07-24 20:28:48 UTC
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I figured it out....Mine is ver 2.0....if you type pfrt.exe (enter)....this
will give you the version that you are using..... If your's is a later
version, I may want to buy it just for the heck of it. Please check your
version and let me know if you want to sell it and for how much??? Rich
thanks a bunch.....Ajay
Jeffrey Needle
2007-07-24 21:21:54 UTC
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Post by resdfw
I figured it out....Mine is ver 2.0....if you type pfrt.exe
(enter)....this
will give you the version that you are using..... If your's is a later
version, I may want to buy it just for the heck of it. Please check your
version and let me know if you want to sell it and for how much??? Rich
thanks a bunch.....Ajay
For the record, Symantec put out a superb old Dos program called "Q&A."
It has all the power and simplicity of PFS File and Write, and so much
more. A much more powerful database module, and tons of other stuff.
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resdfw
2007-07-25 02:02:57 UTC
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Jeff,

After I got this PFS-File, I was so happy with the simplicity of it that I
never tried anything else, later on moved to PARADOX, ACCESS etc, but had
a specific requirement where I had to keep a DOS based program and so I
stayed religiously with PFS- Professional File.
What version of PFS-Professional file do you have???

Thanks for your input...This is a great place to meet people who are
willing to help others...AJ
Jeffrey Needle
2007-07-25 13:44:03 UTC
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Post by resdfw
Jeff,
After I got this PFS-File, I was so happy with the simplicity of it that I
never tried anything else, later on moved to PARADOX, ACCESS etc, but had
a specific requirement where I had to keep a DOS based program and so I
stayed religiously with PFS- Professional File.
What version of PFS-Professional file do you have???
Thanks for your input...This is a great place to meet people who are
willing to help others...AJ
Actually, I don't recall the version number -- it's been years since I've
used it. I've also tried some freeware database programs written for
Windows, but none of them comes close to the simplicity of the products
we're talking about here.

Directing this to the freeware area, I wonder why companies don't just
release their old DOS programs as freeware? Some have, but there are some
who continue to deprive the freeware community of the software.
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Jeffrey Needle
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Gary R. Schmidt
2007-07-26 14:05:43 UTC
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Jeffrey Needle wrote:
[SNIP]
Post by Jeffrey Needle
Directing this to the freeware area, I wonder why companies don't just
release their old DOS programs as freeware? Some have, but there are
some who continue to deprive the freeware community of the software.
Two reasons spring immediately to mind - the first is that they simply
may *not* be able to do so, in most countries it is against the law for
a Board of Directors to do or allow anything which could be *perceived*
as losing money for the Company.

The second is a bit more convoluted, it may also be that the old,
creaky, slow, and limited in so many was DOS version is *too* limited to
be usable in the here-and-now.

Real example, based on $ware that I used to develop and still exists - I
was there from 1992 to 2000 (and still do the odd UNIX 'port for them),
when I started we had a 16-bit real-mode DOS version, on the way through
we developed (in order of my recall): 16/32-Bit 286 Protected Mode DOS;
32-bit 386 Extended Mode DOS; 32-Bit M88000 Motorola Sys-III and Sys-V
UNIX; 32-bit M88000 DG-UX; 32-bit HP-UX PA-RISC; 32-bit SCO
Xenix/UNIX/UNIXWARE/etcetera; 32/64-bit DEC Alpha OSF-1/Digital
UNIX/Tru64; 16-bit Windows 3.x; 16/32-bit OS/2; 32-bit Windows NT
Console mode; 32-bit Windows GUI mode; 32-bit x86 Linux (various);
32-bit Solaris x86; 32-bit AIX PowerPC; 32-bit SPARC ICL UNIX; 32-bit
Synix (Siemens-Nixdorf System V UNIX) MIPS; and no doubt others that
have fled my mind.

Let's ignore the UNIX and Linux variants, and stick to x86 MS and IBM OS's.

As soon as we released the 286 Protected Mode version, interest in the
plain old 16-bit Real Mode DOS version just died, although it was
demonstrably faster in the "add these two numbers together" sense, the
ability of the Protected Mode program to handle (for the day) incredibly
huge amounts of data made it the winner.

The 386 Extended Mode wasn't as much of hit, at the time the 80386 and
80486 chips were still expensive enough that few people could justify
the expense, and as for more than 4 Megabytes of memory, only the
*insanely* rich could afford that, so it wasn't important, and anyway,
Windows 3.x and OS/2 were becoming important.

Then, Windows NT arrived, a nice, stable, but expensive 32-bit
environment, then, suddenly we had Windows 95, a fairly stable but
definitely 32-bit and *definitely* cheap environment.

Yes, some people kept running the 286 Protected Mode version, until they
saw what the 32-bit Console Mode version was like, or their customers
demanded they shift to a full Windows GUI.

The 16-bit version can theoretically still be built, most of the code is
architecture neutral, but a lot of the features of the 32-bit variants
are simply not available due to memory constraints, Real Mode can *not*
address more than 1 Megabyte. (Okay, now some other old-timer will
start carrying on about LIMS memory and extended mode and so on, I have
*no* idea whether or not either mode still works on NT-based OS's; I
would assume they work on Win9x, *if* you can remember the incantations!!)

So, from Windows 95 on, anybody with any sense moved to either the
32-bit Console Mode or the 32-bit GUI version as soon as was
practicable, and the 16-bit version withered, simply because it was
*useless* in comparison.

So why allow a product that is badly limited in comparison to what else
is out there to escape, it's limitations can put your *other* products
at risk, in the following (classically a.c.f) sense:
"Company A have a free version of Product B that you can download,"
"What's it like?"
"Absolute crap, it's a 16-bit DOS/Win3.x version, don't touch *any* of
their other products, that's probably all that Products C, D, ... and Z
are, old stuff just tarted up to work on Windows XP/Vista."

So, to free an old version, you would have to be *absolutely* sure that
it wouldn't impact on your current range.

Cheers,
Gary B-)
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whether you were up them with or not
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Jeffrey Needle
2007-07-26 14:39:27 UTC
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Post by Gary R. Schmidt
[SNIP]
Post by Jeffrey Needle
Directing this to the freeware area, I wonder why companies don't
just release their old DOS programs as freeware? Some have, but there
are some who continue to deprive the freeware community of the
software.
Two reasons spring immediately to mind - the first is that they simply
may *not* be able to do so, in most countries it is against the law for
a Board of Directors to do or allow anything which could be *perceived*
as losing money for the Company.
The second is a bit more convoluted, it may also be that the old,
creaky, slow, and limited in so many was DOS version is *too* limited to
be usable in the here-and-now.
<snip>

Great explanations -- thanks! I never thought of the first instance, but
it makes a great deal of sense. And the second, yeah, I guess a crappy
program could ruin the reputation of the software maker.

I appreciate the time and effort put into this response. It helps a great
deal!

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